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Good morning, good evening, good night, good afternoon.
Sometimes it's easier for me to keep going than to quit.
Life is real, you know what I mean?
You have to go out there and put the work in.
And if you've never been in the pit at a NASCAR race, do it.
The time you put in while no one is around
will be what sets you apart when everyone is watching.
Because a lot of times you'd be like,
oh yeah, that's a cool little idea.
But once they really understand where you're coming from,
the meaning behind it all in your heart, what you really want to accomplish. That's when people
dive in. They really get on board with it. I will hit that live button. What's up? What's up? What's
up? Good morning. Good evening. Good night. Good afternoon. Whatever time you're listening in,
wherever you're listening from. Shout out to the Spotify listenership, Apple, YouTube,
Google Podcasts, even GeoSavant, man, wherever you're tapping in in the world.
We just got the rap numbers. We're in five countries. We got listeners listening consistently,
mostly in the US, UK and stuff, but some other countries. So shout out to everyone,
whether you're in the first world, third world, tapping in, man, we're linking up with that
entrepreneurial mindset, that grind, that I will not lose, that passion. And the theme of 2026
is working some rest in there too. So I'm going to get to interview this man. I mean, every year
it's at the top of his career there's a huge resume has worked with everyone uh french coke
boy signed artist hip-hop producer award-winning multiple years for best producer but also has a
catalog of rap that goes back at least a decade so we're talking with mr red mcfly here um how's
it going man what's up what's up everything's great it's a good year starting off 2026 with a
bang what'd you do for new year's new year's i was down um shout out the past i was downtown
seven for hamilton they did the big celebration um dj medicine and brought me out perform a record
so i brought in new years with the city that's wow that's dope that's dope so you were working
but still home yeah and my kids down there and everything so it was dope appreciate that man
could have been anywhere in the world yeah so for my listeners that are familiar one of the things
that i wanted to stand out is no matter where you've gone in the world who you've networked
with you've been on radio claiming allentown yeah you know what i mean settled down here and
so it's awesome to bring that back and really put us on the map um i saw you were just shouted out
for producing uh i listened to at least three times this morning man that drop is crazy but
make america wavy again yeah shout out the french and max that was the uh the first single on the
album they just dropped coke wave 3.5 narcos i actually i did four tracks on that album
and um that make america wave again that's that's like a to me like that that was like
when that dropped and then i was like damn this is gonna be a great year this year because it's
only gonna go up from there you know i mean yeah that's a hell of a way to record coming in
everything so it's dope yeah so you have people don't know you've won lehigh valley's hip-hop
producer you were up with there shout out to phase one zero ignati nuisance who we were just
talking about was on there oh yeah i worked with him back at royal entertainment so it's amazing
to see these people stick with the craft you know the the game has changed hip-hop has changed so
much yeah you know and you're able to take that um i want to call it old school style but
I'll play Allentown rappers
to people from Philly
or something
they're like wow
that has a sound
like it's
oh okay
I don't know
it reminds me of like
early 2000s
like mid 2000s
but it's aged well
the song length is
I know what you're saying
yeah we try to keep that
that real like
East Coast sound
that kind of drifted off
over the years
like you start seeing
everybody from like
New York and Jersey
and all the tri-state
area and everything
they just start changing
they sound like
trying to sound like
chicago we're trying to sound like down south detroit you know i mean like yeah that was big
in the early 2000s everyone wanted to sound uh it's whatever was popping whatever sounded good
but i think your ear for production is that that sounds like 2026 that style of sampling reminds
me i mean you're inspired by the greats like yay you know you can speak on that but yeah you know
yeah like I'm
inspired by
a lot of the
producer rappers
over the years
so like people
like Kanye
RZA
Dr. Dre
people like that
that was
equally as nice
as an artist
as they were
a producer
that's like what
I'll be trying to
that's what I'll be
striving to be like
so I feel like that
it's a people
you know
it was
people that came
in the game
and they produced
but then they try to
rap and it ain't that good
or they rap
and they try to produce
and it ain't that good
So like the ones that could live, that could do both equally to me, like
that's, that's what a real, what a real talent is that
each one makes you better at the other one too.
Like if you know how it goes, like, uh, I'm going to shout out, get us a win.
I was just listening to when you go on it and you have a flow, a cadence
that you keep through the whole way, it fills in the blank spots of the beat.
So it's all one thing.
you just as soon as that drops i've seen you perform it a couple times now i actually got
footage of it i was gonna cut it up maybe i'll put it in with this episode okay i got it in 4k
right in the center of the crowd and everyone just starts moving together so yeah that's dope
but i'm curious you know clearly you love music what's it like to work with people that once
inspired you that's to me that's like it's feeling like i don't want to say feel like you made it but
it's like it's kind of rewarding because you like a lot of people want to work with people that they
look up to like whether you're a basketball player and you want to play with LeBron or something like
that or yeah yeah football player you wanted to play with Brady or whoever and then um on the
hip-hop scene like I always the people that I'll be working with is like people that I was actually
fans of first before I got to work with them so me being a fan of them it made me draw towards
wanting to work with them and trying to reach out and send music and and then wind up just going in
my favor but like artists like french and max b and benny the butcher like those are people that
i actively listen to in the car like on a daily basis yeah yeah and shout out to those guys
especially like you don't be realizing how big they really are because you because when you know
them and then like when you actually go out in the clubs or the shows and you see how people react
You're like, damn, this is a person that really made it
and made their way in the game.
Sure, man.
You still learning stuff from working with them?
Yeah, every day I'm learning something.
Whether it's, like, becoming a better artist, like, songwriter-wise,
or if I pull up to the show and I'm watching and I'm learning,
all right, now I can become a better performer.
I'm picking up pieces.
Like, you know, just watching and being a student in the game
before anything.
I think that's important because a lot of people, they just go and a lot of stuff go over their head.
But like me, when I pull up to events and even if I go to the studio or whatever, it's like I'm taking notes and I'm learning something while I'm there.
That's fire, man. That's fire.
I think people don't realize that whatever career you're going to do, you know, people look at rap as, because a lot of people do it and don't take it to any sort of level or they don't have a love for it.
They're in it for the wrong reasons from the gate.
So they don't get what they want out of it because, you know, the intentions weren't there.
When you get into what it takes to be successful in the rap game, it's not just writing lyrics.
It's not just making beats.
That's the easy part.
It's a presence.
It's about your marketing.
It's about your network.
It's about going out and really striving to get it.
and then like writing music and everything that's the part that you already know naturally without
learning like it's just a natural talent so that's the easy part i always tell artists like
yeah you can record the music but what happens after the music is laid down what you do after
that to me like that's way more important it's about getting that music to the right ears because
sometimes you might have a good product but you're not it's not being shown to the people that want
to buy it yeah so sure i always use the example of um still you made that song kiss on the what
was it kiss on the rose on the kiss on the rose or whatever yeah i remember that video yeah they
put that record i had a whole nother video and everything it didn't do good at all it didn't
chart nothing and then they redid it and added on the batman soundtrack and all that made it a
little more cinematic yeah it was like the one of the biggest records of the 90s right there
for sure
I can't even think
of what movie
that was on
Batman
I think it was
Batman Returns
you just said
Batman Returns
I was young
when that came down
but it played
for 10 years
after that
so we still saw
the videos and stuff
yeah for sure
I'm sure they're still
getting royalties
off that
yeah most definitely
you got like even
while we're on music
you got Tech N9ne
who
had a whole album
out on the label
and then re-released
the same album
but marketed
a different way
yeah that guy's a genius right there yeah so how much of the you're an entrepreneur
always i mean hip-hop is entrepreneurial in general i think a lot of people cross over with
that but what kind of business were you into or yeah so i feel like hip-hop is always the um
the door opener to do other things like you can't just become a multi-millionaire just off just
being a i mean you could but it's it's so hard to just only be a rapper and like really be at the
top of where you want to be you know i'm saying so like i look at people like 50 cent diddy you
know the ones that was artists but they were entrepreneurs so 50 took that took his bread
reinvested it did vitamin water dr dre invested into did the uh beats by dre did you know he did
all kinds of stuff clothing colognes serac all that you know i mean so like the thing
what i tell people is when you're an artist you become a brand so your brand has equity
so you can put you can attach your brand to anything and then make money off of that
i could be like y'all want to sell these cups i might be every podcast i'm sitting there drinking
a cup whatever eventually people gonna be like y'all want one of those too
So like
You're using
The music
And the
The brand that you created
From doing music
To branch off
And make money off
Other stuff
So like
That's why
It's always been important
To me to
To like
Get going with the merch
With
Selling
Like having my beat website
Selling loops
Stuff like that
That people
Could feel like
What they're doing
Is they're investing into you
As opposed to
Just being a consumer
Is that like
The licensing model?
yeah like is how yeah so that's a vision just uh when you were saying like can you make it just
off rap the thing i was thinking is like you got like a four-year run of the way music sounds and
any artist has been around for 12 years more than that yeah yeah now now it's like two years you
know what i mean so you gotta drop a different project in a different genre a year and a half
later you gotta always we we live in a world now where like if you don't do nothing for like a
whole month that go by you ice cold yeah like you could go from being hot at the top of the game
right now let's say like right now a lot of people have been hitting me since that coke wave album
drop if i don't do nothing in the next 30 days it all goes away yeah that's what that's what i was
like make to make sure i get back to you first off thank you for with how slotted your time is
making the time to come home and hit uh hit this podcast you know what i mean it's a big interview
for us as well as i think uh when people look you up because my stuff what people will find this
interview looking you up and be able to see if they want to go long form like what's the mind
behind it how does it go down it's not a 10 minute slot where we play the track real quick you shout
a couple people out i love that and i miss that you know that's what inspires me being in media
but the gates are down we could we could do this for the next two hours i mean i know we're busy
but there's no limit to creating there's no gate to putting it out everywhere so it's it's fire you
know and i think when you can go from doing what you love to doing it on a national hitting the
things and then also knowing that that's not it like yeah i think people expect that to be the
end of the story you made it like you said it's that feeling you said it feels like you made it
you didn't say it's like i made it yeah so to me making it is like you don't have to do nothing
today and you still gonna make money okay right now i'm still at the point where i still have to
grind every day i might make money every day but it's because i'm getting up and i'm getting to it
every day but like if i could get up and i could not do anything for a couple days and i'm still
making money on my sleep making money uh while i'm doing leisure activities or whatever i'm
doing this business but i'm still making money off this one and they're all working themselves
you know to me that's like when you made it yeah that's control over your time like elon musk he
don't ever gotta work again he does it because he wants to be great and he wants to be he's always
chasing like you know being more than what he was yesterday yeah and i feel like that's the only way
you can really get to that point anyway is by having that type of mindset so like you're never
content with what you have you're always like are you thankful for what you have but you're not
content so you're thankful that you made it this far but you know that you can go further yeah i
think the gratitude at every level kind of helps keep you grounded and stuff like that but yeah
i say the same thing it's like when i'm in creative and you get into cameras it's like
they make cameras past what your eyes could see yeah why are we going there dog nobody can see it
like you know what i mean it doesn't have to be that crisp and that crazy so i make choices based
on how i put my content out and what the medium is to be honest i want people listening yeah i
think this is the the most important piece it's got to sound good oh yeah people that i'm not in
that market i don't watch people talk besides a clip i don't watch even my favorite podcast for
an hour oh yeah yeah but you got to move with what the medium is so people are there levels i could
go could i get crazier cameras could i get crazier mics i mean yeah you could put your shit in a
space shuttle and have it sounding like heaven but you know you you do the tools for for what
you have to do i love this one piece of content i saw you were walking down the street somewhere
and they came up to you and pulled you in the studio and i just made a song on the spot yeah
yeah shout out to get in the room get in the room that was dope yeah and we really did that song
like right that was it wasn't really like we pre-made it and then just did that video like
i did the song right on the spot and everything yeah they made the beat right there i wrote to
it by the time it was done with the beat laid it down recorded right like really was right on the
spot yeah so you need the tools to do stuff like that and it's uh you know as a creative it's an
energy you know what i mean so just to be you had uh like this would be a different piece of content
if it was all dreary outside came outside it's nice you know he grabbed something to drink and
then make some content that could live forever it could be you know who knows what comes from it
but i wanted to pick your brain on what it's like to work with the idols what it's like to
you know have a hustle mentality before going into doing it because i think people see it and
they think that without watching it that you just got put on out of nowhere right you know what i
mean because to them is just presented now you know i mean all of a sudden it's like who's this
we're looking it up but yeah i'm glad you said that because um people do be thinking that and
And I'd be trying to tell them, like, bro, it was years of hitting people up,
not getting no replies, pulling up to shows,
not really getting to speak to nobody.
Just doing beats over and over again and feeling like nobody's listening to them,
recording songs, feeling like it's not getting streamed and all of that.
It's like I had to keep doing that over and over again
before I realized, like, damn, I'm doing something wrong.
Like, let me figure out, like, what in my workflow am I doing?
that I could change
to make it more effective
so like
I'm making beats
I'm emailing the people
but am I following up
am I pulling up
and
meeting these people
face to face
and you know
having real conversations
am I keep trying
like do I keep trying
to get my phone number
to the rapper
or do I get a little bit smarter
and talk to the manager
or the people that's
on the entourage
that
that really do care about
that the artist
ain't really in the mind
a lot of times
when you talk to them
you gotta talk to the manager they always on business all day so it was like little things
i had to pick up and learn over the years and it took some time it was a learning curve
but like once you get it going like once that ball is rolling it just it just gets you know
how that go when you start off small on the road downhill you get bigger and bigger and bigger
yeah it's like that yeah that's fire man i wanted to pull back to you said about the equity when you
have a brand or you have people following you and there's some some weight behind your name
where i weigh that what i think is commendable is even on social you got you know everything is
50 100 comments with emojis you know what i mean with the airplanes so it's like the the take flight
that exists as an emoji blended into that online world and people can see that engagement because
they don't pay for followers like that was a game for a little bit to have yeah you know all that
does is destroy your own engagement yeah if they're not visibility yeah but for them to see
or then you see like the waves with the coke boys like it's oh yeah it's just dope to have some sort
of brand or whatever oh yeah i tried to push the crowns but i'm not i'm not consistent with it i
don't live in that social world like i should there's gonna be a lot of days where it feel like
it ain't going nowhere
and then
out of nowhere
it just start clicking
people
like there was times
where I just
put in airplane emojis
and
it wasn't
it wasn't clicking
the people
you know what I mean
and then after a while
it just
it just catch on
they associate you
with that
that's dope
that's dope
yeah
so what else we got
your community work
I mean I'm wearing
the shirt for the
hip hop off the wall
oh yeah
I think this was
the first event
I had been to
that you did
we had crossed paths on other things but i remember telling someone i was on my way and
they the first thing they said is your red throws great events i'm doing often but whatever he
throws is well put together and stuff so we walked into hip-hop off the wall they had all sorts of
artists i can't shout all of them i did meet um shout out to caddy mike oh yeah um yeah i saw him
at the streetwear expo so follow them on instagram he's one of the artists mike deco and hip-hop off
the wall that's crazy i was talking to you and i thought you were on music i saw you at the
streetwear expo too i got pictures of your artwork i mean off camera we got mike deco uh some
management with red so they're over here you guys probably can't hear them on the audio but
uh if i get time to really produce this i just dropped yesterday so if i get time to produce
this right i'll take the pictures of your artwork help show me which ones you want to put up
and we'll get you off camera and get you thrown in here see what eyes come off it
because that's what's that's what's the culture of the city that's what you know my son's making
music now he performed at the ultimate streetwear expo and i'm putting him on like the part i hate
about the game is the nepotism so i'm not just gonna tell him you know work with the best
producers like I told him
make sure you put out five tracks
he's at 11
so I'm like okay so he's playing
guitar self producing
he's young enough where he can figure out does he
want to you know be the Da Vinci
of music play sing mix his
own stuff and record or
does that bottleneck you at some point
you know yeah I want to add to that too
though I know
the word nepotism itself got
like a bad stigma
to it or whatever but I feel like
And that's one of the rewards of grinding hard and building something is that you can speed the process up for your kids.
So, like, if you got resources and a network and people around you, people, they hate on nepotism because they probably don't have no family members that could speed them through, you know.
It's only when you give it to an undeserving child or kid or whatever, you know what I mean?
but like if the kid really work and grind and really want it like as bad as you do i feel like
that's one of the uh the beauties of this is that you could pass something on to your kids
and let them get a quicker route through the game and maybe they could just be greater than what we
were for sure but you hit on a key point they gotta put the work they gotta earn it like you
you know what i mean you send your kid to school for the craft that you did even if you don't have
a degree and then they end up taking over the company and bringing it into the new era that's
awesome so i speak based on what people think of is all right we just planted someone in the
industry they get to take artists money from the people doing it you know when i speak on nepotism
sure i'll introduce him to people but when he's ready because i can't waste someone's time just
like i wouldn't want them you know i mean i've been designing logos and doing artwork i got
artwork all up and down hamilton i can't do it for free just like even my family pays me like how
you know what i mean if you've been asking me for 10 years to do a logo okay maybe it's time
shout out to anyone that's been following me and just for whatever reason we couldn't work i'm in
a good place right now we'll make something happen you know we have uh stuff going on with the i
create magazine uh photography and stuff for that so i've got an outlet to inspire the kids and let
them know they could get it i can't tell my son at 15 what the industry is going to be like in
even five years so he's gonna have to navigate that you know i could hope he could get from
music that expression of soul that like yeah i feel you you know um i got nothing no problem
with any sort of rap if it's well produced and it translates that feeling like you could tell
somebody loved making it or they're telling their story or anything like that yeah and i feel like
that's the problem sometimes with like a lot of the music um execs or like artists they had kids
and they do music and they just feel like you're just being lazy about it they're just putting
anything out it's almost like ai yeah but you got some people with it the kids they really take it
serious and passionate about it yeah yeah so if you got that that's that's a great thing to have
for sure yeah you learn some things i think music translates even if you don't take it to the levels
you did it translates to other things like just how the entrepreneur could help out with music
just being able to speak or perform in front of a crowd or grab the presence in a room that's
translatable skills to other stuff so i also don't paint a pretty picture like can my son sing is he
talented for 15 crazy talented but you know how many people make hit music every day since we did
this podcast 100 hits came out maybe 30 i don't know maybe 20 but my point is every day somebody's
putting out something that people could adapt to it all depends on timing it depends on what sort
the brand stuff there is so like i put him together a website but he's got to tell me what
he wants to add to it how he wants to sell merch from it so oh yeah yeah that's dope if he got
royalties and a website that he owns by 18 i could put him in touch he still has to do the work but
it's like that's technically nepotism if we want to do it but that's like you said that's the point
yeah i didn't come in with any network i'm one of the first in my close family to start a business
at all i just found out my son made 200 off a logo i'm like that's that's crazy if you get
your skills up i got some work for you from there but you know you set the example you see like
he's performing on stage he's i remember that first time i performed you know what i mean and
he had more people at his first performance
than I'm sure a bunch of people do.
Shout out to Paz. That means you're doing your
job then. Yeah.
Think so. Definitely.
Well, we'll see what happens.
Gotta keep him away from those girls
and drugs and
other stuff that happens with life.
What?
What do you got coming up? I know
you can't talk about it. One thing that
stuck out, you posted, I commented on it.
I wasn't even going to tell people we did this.
I posted a clip wearing the shirt and playing Make America Wavy.
So somebody's going to know you're here.
But no, I don't talk about anything could happen.
Things could have canceled.
So how I look, say, in a week or two, we're going to drop this.
Oh, yeah.
Plus, it's just a lot better.
You set yourself up, one, for having a target.
And I'll let you speak on it.
But to me, it meant like, hey, I got a target on my back, too.
Like, now I got a timeline that I got to do this.
Yeah.
you can't talk for something for three years yeah and i feel like um the more like you start
getting on in this game and you start doing stuff that people start paying attention i feel like it
gets harder because now you got to keep up like before let's say like where your son is at you
could drop music leisurely you can really sit back think about it and and drop it as he feels
like it's a good time or whatever whereas once you get the people's attention you got to be always
like this they got to be quantity and quality together at the same time like one can't be more
than the other and it's like you got to be efficient you got to be consistent and i feel
like consistency is the only thing that got me to turn my l's and the w's anyway because that that
consistency is like people you want to uh like people like to be fans of winners and people
that's constantly catching wins you know i'm saying if you just like think about how many
dope artists we seen that we like dang if only he just dropped more music like i know he'd be
bigger than what he is and i'll just be simple as that yeah yeah for sure it ain't that complicated
this in time the worst thing to do is you know drop an album five years after it was supposed
to drop you know you work on perfect and something i tell myself the same stuff with content like
that the show is the show but it's also the clips that come from it the picture like more people
will like the picture of the guest on the show than actually take the hour to get to know an
artist and see what's up i just love putting it out there that it exists and like the same way
you said you could make money outside of just the music that you're doing i love how people focus on
you know what's your sponsorship like how much are you making off the podcast it's like my hourly
rate to charge for how to use this tech and stuff like the amount i paid on tax is just outside of
the podcast or sold creative services i'm producing two podcasts now i'm working on branding for
another one we're launching in a couple of weeks. So does it translate to other stuff? Sure. Like
I'm busy enough to be able to do this as a hobby for fun. Like this is all I could go
the sponsorship, all that'll come. But this exists to co-create content and people tell
their stories. I have creators on here. And as it got bigger and bigger, like you said,
you're with people who you look at inspire but you look at them for work and you're looking at
people look at them like idols in the club and stuff like that i was just talking with a friend
about that he'll be at parties in la and he's like he's uh in the ai he's like an engineer with me
and he he'll be like that's cool when somebody did something crazy everybody be like you know
the person's a platinum he's like oh that's super cool and he'll i don't know maybe we're like
slightly on the spectrum with this but that whole star thing like i respect people for what they did
and the game that they played and being successful in it for a super long time yeah you know being
able to be four-dimensional as an artist have the the music but also the social content is crazy
yeah being transparent is winning the game right now too so that's just a thing of what you just
said like showing the people more um letting them know more about the real you not just you the
artist you know i'm saying people people want to feel like they could relate to you and and
they think the same way and oh he liked the same food i like or his favorite color the same favorite
color as me we like the same sports team you know that's how you um really gain fans is by
having common interests and relatable and stuff like and the only way you could do that is by
having that content showing people yeah yeah now i know the the game of social and
the negative content goes crazy you got something negative that's the easiest way to go viral so
i knew getting into this game i'm like so you're gonna have a podcast about
just a theme not even like all guests and the same sort of thing uh some my some of my listeners
don't even listen to rap at all so i think that's beautiful they don't even listen to rock or
anything you know i mean their their english is their second language so it's just crazy that
somebody could connect where i don't know somebody could be selling textiles in saudi arabia i don't
know uh because they listen to it and they're like okay i see american culture does that like like
when uh you have themes like like mafia or things were like you remember i'd say like mid 90s maybe
late 90s it was very influenced in hip-hop everything like was uh just like influenced
by that like it was like uh yeah every rapper was a uh was a mobster for sure for sure yeah you know
everything was a family it's like you know you have themes or something that that goes with it
So, I think it's dope that people are still creating.
I saw one that said, if you're over 30 and rapping, and it was one of those ones like public service.
It's like, listen, man, we need to keep doing that.
Like, it's not that the art is dead, but there's still lyrics to be said, stories to be told.
Yeah.
And the thing about hip hop, the demographics has grown over the years.
So, like when hip hop first came around, it was like something older people didn't listen to.
It was just younger crowd, right?
Like people that was like 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.
People that was like in their 30s and wasn't listening to rap like that.
Then as time goes on, those 18-year-olds turn into 28-year-olds
and those 28-year-olds turn into 38-year-olds and so on.
38 to 48 and so on like that.
So I feel like what happened over time is that the demographic grew.
So now you got an artist that could cater to a 15 to 20-year-old audience.
you got somebody
that can cater to
more like a 20 to 25
then it goes up to
like 30 to 40
you know what I mean
so I feel like
as long as you know
what your audience is
and you cater to
that audience
then you can be
successful in this game
that's why
like if I'm
if I'm over 30
I'm not gonna be
making my music
for kids that's
15 years old
yeah I think
that's where it gets
I think that's where
it gets weird
now you're right
there's just
the ears off to it
now don't get me wrong
sometimes you get a big
crossover hit
So kids will know
Like there's 15, 20 year old kids
Who know who
Rick Ross is
And know who French Montana is
And know who
You know other rappers
That are over 30 years old
But it's like
That just comes naturally
When you get a real big hit
But like when you cater to your audience
Like Benny the Butcher
For example he caters
To his audience
Of people that like his type of music
And he's always gonna be winning
Doing that
Just like
Lil Uzi got his audience
Of people that he catered to
which those are two completely different crowds of people and they both making money off it
i think right around skinny jeans was when it was that crossover where people i don't want to say
we're too old to be making it for kids but you look like you just be in different spots you can
be in different spots than you would be before different stuff interests you you know what i
mean like i'll enjoy going to uh you know my son's in school for music so when they have the choir
the recital and stuff like that's still music people think that rappers only listen to rap
you know what i mean like listen to everything music is music yeah sometimes i go days without
listening to rap because if you just listen to the same stuff over and over again your mind never
gonna expand no for sure you just listen to trap stuff all day that's all you're gonna be thinking
about and that's the only thing you think it sounds good it's trap that's why like real artists
that really get big they experiment with different types of rap and different genres of music like
when you look at the kanye's and the jay-z's and the drake and you know people that really
is at the top of the game kendrick lamar people like that you can't box them in they're dipping
in and out of the lane drake got an afro beats album man yeah that's what i'm saying but what
That is, like, important as an artist is to, like, make your demographic as big as possible.
Yeah, be marketable to different stuff.
But still directed towards your demographic.
But, like, try to find little things.
All right, how can I take what I got and then grow it a little bit without compromising, like, who I am?
You know what I'm saying?
For sure.
It's a little thought behind it.
But once you get that strategy down, Pat, like, you can really win.
And that's, like, what I'm working on right now is just trying to take what I got
and then, like, okay, which lane can I dibble in and out of?
Because you got to pick the right lanes that you do that to.
So, like, if you pick the wrong ones, it ain't going to match for you.
And if you're doing events all the time, you don't got time to actually put the work in
and produce the stuff.
Like, I'm sure you didn't just sit there for 15 minutes, say this is going to be the sample and blend everything and the timing and the pitch shifts.
I'm sure that took some time.
Like, so you got to, it's like I say, being in front of the camera and back of the camera.
At least I find myself balancing, like, how much can I be showing or saying I'm doing?
Because I had Ron, I'm sorry, not Ron, Roy Shuler on here.
He's an actor.
he was on um oh it's gonna mess with me now godfather of harlem oh okay he was uh he had
a part in godfather of harlem season two i believe it was and he said don't announce
departures confirm arrivals yeah i like that it's the same thing along what you said like
just don't tell them until it's done yeah i learned that the hard way because sometimes
you got people
they don't want to see
like let's say
you be like
yo I got
something such
coming soon
or whatever
you got people
that will like
wish bad on it
people be having
all kinds of like
negative energies
and stuff
and you don't want
to get it
attached to what
you got going on
you don't want
like
you just
you don't want people
to try to make
phone calls
and do
you know what I mean
like
that's the worst thing
is a deadline
to push something out
before it's ready
yeah
Sometimes just an extra day to sleep on it and be like, I mean, these descriptions are like a little messed up or I got to get collaborator, you know, shout out to Ali a Mac McGuire Platinum Award winning audio engineer.
We just dropped her episode yesterday and she texted me right before this.
I didn't have her friended like I had her number and stuff, but I didn't have her friended so I couldn't tag her and everything.
so when i dropped i gotta go back and tag everything now today i said hold up i'm recording
but no shout out to her if you guys are listening to this and you haven't listened to that episode
listen to the last couple man we had uh jack nine up here other allentown legend um so that was
that was cool you know putting together the story of this city and the talent that came from it
It's a lot from this time.
For sure.
You got anyone you want to shout out?
I mean, I know how our city will get mad if we don't shout them out.
You know what I mean?
Like, you shout out 49 of the 50 rappers.
I know.
You always forget somebody, right?
For sure.
I just want to shout out everybody that's been a part of the journey and been supporting
and, like, played some type of part, whether it be directly or indirectly, just even just
sharing a post, comment, liking, just to keep the algorithm going and all that.
those are people that I'd be wanting to shout out.
That's what's up, man.
It's a nice catch-all to go from there, man.
I just want to, in general,
shout out the creators, rappers,
you know, the entrepreneurs,
because I think people think
that you have to have, like,
a $30 million business to be an entrepreneur.
Like, I think people struggle with
calling themselves an entrepreneur.
And when I realized at an early age
that my place in this city was,
a making it look good you know every city got a rap style yeah there's a regional look i'm gonna
shout him out specifically uh tony super freak duncan oh yeah help bring a look to this area
that was in heavy demand and it lasted like that for years so yeah he did i wouldn't be able to do
what i did without him for what he did what you know um for kind of laying out there he was the
only one at that time so i remember that yeah so kind of putting that together making a look for
stuff that eventually got me into uh sans event center you know they were looking for that club
look they were aimed at college kids so it's like that's when i realized like okay there's a market
for this stuff everybody thinks is for kids same with hip-hop same with with everything that they
said wouldn't be marketable and now it's like trillion dollar businesses or at least million
million so that's dope man i appreciate you putting on the community stuff doing everything
you've done continue to shout us out oh yeah anything and if anybody watching i got stuff
that you need me to be a part of with the community i'm always for it anything i can
help out and be a part of me and the team they like doing stuff like that as well
So we always here
For the community
That's fire man
That's fire
Don't got nothing to plug
Cause I'm sure you got
Three or four things
In the chamber
For this year
But
We'll see them when they drop
You wanna drop
Your socials
Everything is
At Red McFly
We got new music videos
About to drop
Within the next week
I got new projects
That I've been helping produce
More music from French and Max
Stuff with
More music
A lot of rappers
Yeah
Welcome home, Matt.
They already worked on the next project.
Welcome home.
That's fire.
Uh-huh.
So, you know, those are people I look up to.
They make me want to work like that.
You know what I mean?
That's fire, man.
That's fire.
Keep that energy going.
Keep the wave going, man.
Definitely.
It's dope stuff.
So, I mean, we could land the plane
unless there's anything else you wanted to put together.
We're at about 42 minutes.
I mean, that's clean.
Uh-huh.
Anything else you want to chat about?
Just
You know just keep
Keep your eyes peeled
On everything we got
Going on this year
We dropping a lot of music
And we trying to be a part
Of more stuff with the community
Like I was just saying
Shout out my guy Paz
He be getting me involved
With a lot of stuff with that
And then just you know
Just
Stay in tune
Stay on the flight
Cause we always elevate
And taking flight
It's fire man
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