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The Art of Naivety: Biting off More than You Can Chew - I Will Not Lose Podcast - #0027

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In this episode, we explore the concept of naivety and how it can actually be a powerful tool in the process of creating and starting something new. Inspired by the words of David Goggins, we discuss how being naive can give you the courage to take on challenges that may seem insurmountable, and how it can help you push past your limits and achieve your goals. We also share our own experiences of biting off more than we could chew, and offer some tips for navigating the pitfalls that can come with naivety.…

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In this episode, we explore the concept of naivety and how it can actually be a powerful tool in the process of creating and starting something new. Inspired by the words of David Goggins, we discuss how being naive can give you the courage to take on challenges that may seem insurmountable, and how it can help you push past your limits and achieve your goals. We also share our own experiences of biting off more than we could chew, and offer some tips for navigating the pitfalls that can come with naivety. So whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, join us as we explore the art of naivety and the power of taking risks.

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  1. Yo, what's up? What's up? What's up? Good morning. Good evening. Good night. Good afternoon.

  2. Whatever time you're listening in, wherever you're listening from. Shout out to my Spotify

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  4. thanks for giving me a reason to get dressed. Coming live from my voice to your phone,

  5. headphones, TV, or car stereo. Your attention could have been anywhere in the world,

  6. but it's here right now. Let's take a moment to be present and recognize that it is now,

  7. right now. Whether your right now is working, running, exercising, cleaning, laying down,

  8. flying, driving, just be grateful you're alive. Failure can be frightening. However,

  9. as Winston Churchill reminds us, success is all about going from failure to failure without

  10. losing enthusiasm. This is I Will Not Lose podcast, where we set out to prove everything

  11. is learned from failure, and we must persevere and recognize it as one step closer to success.

  12. I'm your host, Tony Ortiz.

  13. Let's jump right in.

  14. I'm going to just look, I promise this is going to be the greatest episode yet.

  15. And that's quite frankly, because I do not want to record.

  16. But I knew there was going to be days like this, and I'm grateful that this is the first

  17. one in almost two seasons.

  18. So it got me thinking back when I used to run all the time, I'd be amazed at how little

  19. how I felt actually affected my performance. So if I hadn't slept well, if I was hungry,

  20. I didn't eat breakfast, but I knew I was running at noon. Once noon came around, after about,

  21. I don't know, two tenths of a mile, something takes over your body and it says, okay,

  22. we're doing this. It's time to do this. And then I'd end up setting a personal best. So

  23. the idea that you're always going to be prepared in a good mood, everything's going great in your

  24. life when it's time to perform. It's just like, come on now, let's be realistic. So I'm happy I

  25. am where I am, but it also gave me some inspiration for this great episode. So let's jump right in,

  26. man. I just finished David Goggins, never finished. That's a mouthful. This is David

  27. Goggins' second book. If you don't know who he was, he's the New York bestselling author of

  28. Can't Hurt Me, which is kind of an autobiographical military motivation book. It came out, I think,

  29. 2018 or 19, don't quote me, but a few years ago. And it was the story of how, essentially,

  30. no spoilers, but David Goggins is a beast. He's the only man to complete Navy SEAL,

  31. Army Ranger and Air Force training. He was a career Navy SEAL, held the world record for

  32. most pull ups in 24 hours, normally runs 100 mile races. He's just a complete specimen of a human

  33. being. So it's a different kind of motivation. He definitely curses like a sailor. But when you're

  34. a sailor. When you are a sailor, you can say whatever the fuck you want. What it comes down to

  35. is this book is highly motivational in terms of pushing yourself to your limit and recognizing

  36. what your limit is. I think the title of this new one is How to Win the War Within

  37. and Have a Mindset. So when I first read Can't Hurt Me, this book was so motivating. I'm sitting

  38. there and I'm drinking a glass of wine and I'm reading about how this guy was, you know, 70 or

  39. 80 pounds overweight, getting ready to join SEAL training. And he had to change his life around.

  40. He had to do it. So it was like 16 to 18 hour a day training sessions with cycling on top of

  41. working. And I'm just reading all this stuff this guy's doing. And I'm like, look at me,

  42. cushy, sitting here reading a book with my glass of wine. I got up and I set my mind to run 10

  43. miles. It was like 6 or 7 p.m., so already approaching dark. And I knew if I took my phone

  44. with me, I would end up calling an Uber. So I set a backup. I just took my ID with me, some things

  45. like that. And I ended up getting about six miles. Now, I hadn't run more than two miles in probably

  46. about a year at the time of reading it, but his voice just kept going in my head as I'm running.

  47. And I said, I could go further. I didn't make the 10, but I was satisfied with the six.

  48. And the next day I go to talk to my doctor and he's asking how my knees are. And I said, well,

  49. I just ran six and a half miles yesterday. At the time I was like 240 pounds. So he's like,

  50. you cannot do that. Like your knees will not let you put that kind of pressure on. So that was one

  51. of my goals. I wanted to be able to run. So that was part of my motivation to lose a ton of weight

  52. last year. But I digress. That's how motivating this book can be. It's not for everyone. Not

  53. everybody can do the military style. It's not a cushy walk. It's kind of a get up and get moving.

  54. And sometimes people need that to get going. Somebody was reaching out to me and they were

  55. like, what do I do, man? I need some motivation. I just need to clean my house. I have to clean my

  56. house. I said, no, you get to clean your house. Flip your mind state. Don't tell yourself you

  57. have to. Say that you have a beautiful, warm house and you have the privilege to be able to

  58. straighten it up and organize it and make it the best. They were like, that's absolutely right.

  59. That's what you need to do. So that was a little earlier today. Now here I am thinking, you know

  60. what? I do not want to drop the podcast. We had some technical difficulties and we dropped late

  61. last week. That's not going to happen two weeks in a row. So it really doesn't matter how I feel.

  62. I set my mind to doing something and I have people that listen. There's an obligation. I know you

  63. guys would be cool. Everybody was cool with me dropping a little bit late, but it's a certain

  64. personal goal that you set, even though there's no advertisers or stakeholders and I'm really

  65. under no pressure to drop weekly, it's something I set my mind to and something that, you know,

  66. every time I've said that I couldn't do it, I did it and I did it further. Whether that was

  67. waking up and having an insurmountable task list to do that day, there's a bunch of tasks to get

  68. done or it was, you know, I know I have to work 16, 17 hours. I'll say 14, 15. I can't remember

  69. the last time I did 17 hours. But, you know, if you know when you wake up at 530 and you're not

  70. going to be hitting the bed till 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock that night, you just got to be grateful.

  71. Get up and do it. You know, I don't know. It's just something about not being in the mood to

  72. do it and persevering to do it just leads to great accomplishments. So I think back to I remember

  73. recording a video of myself. I was about two and a half miles into a run and I look and I record

  74. myself and I say, I just ran two and a half miles. I want to commit to running three miles tomorrow

  75. and the day after that and every day. While I didn't get to three miles the very next day,

  76. within a year, I was running three to five miles at least five days a week. And so once I was doing

  77. that, it was like, OK, if I had more time, the only thing that's stopping me is that I'm doing

  78. this on a lunch break and I literally only have 40 minutes to run. So if I could knock out five

  79. miles in 45 minutes, I was real fast back in the day. I don't know. It was just the you set the

  80. goal, you get there. And then you realize that through practice and through your training,

  81. this is easy and you can just do it. The first time I signed up for a 5k, I, it was in September

  82. and I think it was three or four months beforehand and I hadn't run since high school. And even then

  83. like we ran in wrestling, but not like really running like only a mile here or there. So

  84. So I wasn't in shape to run, but I remember I thought I can work my way up to three miles.

  85. I started with half, went to one, worked my way up to two, and then hit the 5K.

  86. That following year, I think I ran four or five 5Ks, and I was putting in at least three

  87. mile runs every other week or so.

  88. So you set that insurmountable goal, and through training, you don't even realize like, wow,

  89. I'm crushing this.

  90. I did it. Another note to myself that I put out, I remember recording a memo. I had just started

  91. as an adjunct professor at Northampton Community College teaching Photoshop and Illustrator,

  92. like Adobe Creative Suite. I already had a full-time job and I was thinking, man, I bit

  93. off more than I can chew. I prepared my notes. I hadn't been in front of a classroom for a while

  94. and it was about 15 minutes before it was time to go. And I just said, I can do this. I'm telling

  95. this to myself that I'm capable of doing this. And one day this will be easy and I'll look back at

  96. it. And it was amazing. I got through a few semesters, pretty much up until Corona, I was

  97. teaching adjunct while having a full-time job and putting out content onto YouTube. So it's nuts.

  98. You know, I go through my weekly schedule and I think, man, I'm busy, but it's like

  99. I'm still getting good sleep.

  100. There's people that aren't getting good sleep that are really busy.

  101. They have some sort of physically exhausting work.

  102. You know, I just run my mind to the point of insanity and then rest and do it again.

  103. But yeah, you know, I think about in the book, Dave Goggins throughout Can't Hurt Me talks

  104. about running hundred mile races and what goes through and the mind state that he had and

  105. triathlons and all sorts of things. I mean, this guy would do these insane marathons almost every

  106. weekend. So in you know, I'll give you a quick spoiler. He works on a two hundred and forty

  107. mile run. Uh, it's kind of how he opens the book and to go from a hundred, let's just stop for a

  108. second. One hundred miles. If you run a hundred miles in a week, I mean, that would be almost a

  109. half marathon every day, every other day. That's an insane amount of running. He would do that

  110. in a weekend so 240 and having like i think it was five or six days to complete the whole race

  111. i mean you you push yourself to a whole another level it's it's it's okay to not run 100 miles

  112. you know i'm okay with my own personal bests and things that i've done but that's because i know

  113. there was a steady gradual increase that i could measure that i could see and i could get the

  114. rewards of seeing myself grow there. But it may not have been the best I could ever do, but it

  115. was the best I could give at that time. And that's all that mattered. I mean, gosh, the feeling of

  116. running, you know, clocking out at noon, driving down to the trail, running about three miles,

  117. getting back, showering, grabbing lunch to eat at my desk and tying my tie, tying my shoelaces

  118. in full business attire within one hour.

  119. And that would energize me for the afternoon.

  120. And it was amazing.

  121. And I remember every time I tied my shoes,

  122. I thought I didn't feel like going for that run.

  123. And now here I am.

  124. I did it.

  125. I knocked it out and I had a good time.

  126. So that's the mindset that I'm coming into.

  127. I'm like, man, I don't have to pod today.

  128. I get to pod today.

  129. How cool is this?

  130. Look at us, man.

  131. we get to record document our thoughts and you guys found me and listen to it man what a privilege

  132. this is cool so um i did want to let me actually check my time all right we're gonna be a little

  133. bit light this week just because we've been killing it man shout out to i will not lose in

  134. season two with guests. We had my son Jaden kicking off. We had Law the Barber on community

  135. advice. Brian Yant. We had Ryan sharing his story from addiction to recovery. And the goal wasn't

  136. even to have guests. You know, this is something that I do as a hobby that I think I can grow.

  137. But I set expectations for what level of production I'm actually going to put together

  138. because, you know, it's not fair for me to quit my day job and just go off and be a full time

  139. podcaster and not bring any money in. But that being said, I do like the idea of posting on

  140. Mondays feels like that same feeling of tying my shoes after a long run. We prepared, we showed up

  141. and we haven't missed a week since October of last year. So this is super, super cool stuff,

  142. man. You don't have to be the best. This is a quote from Never Finish. She says,

  143. I used to think that I had to be the best at everything to be great and to be a strong leader.

  144. That's not the case. The valiant motherfucker is the person who faces long odds but continues to

  145. try. That really rocked with me. I have my show notes together and then I go and I read

  146. and I'm listening to the audio book and that's what he kind of closes with.

  147. There's one other quote that I'll close the podcast at with that he comes.

  148. But, you know, I did.

  149. You got to continue to try.

  150. I did an episode.

  151. I think it was earlier in season one, but it was the important importance of persevering

  152. when you're not number one.

  153. Excuse me.

  154. The importance of persevering when you're not number one, you know, don't discourage.

  155. Don't get discouraged by the people ahead of you.

  156. Recognize if they worked harder than you, they deserve to hold that place in front of

  157. you and let them be an inspiration to you, man.

  158. Like, let them just be a damn inspiration.

  159. There's a great quote on Instagram, one of the reels that was going viral, but it was

  160. pretty much like, this is a warning to whoever's in front of me, man.

  161. Like, I'm just letting you know, watch out because I am coming and I am coming fast.

  162. and I'm like, yes, that is the exact mentality you need to have. Whatever you're doing, whether

  163. it's a hobby, whether it's a profession, you got to push forward. You got to set your goals and

  164. don't get complacent. If you see yourself plateauing, switch up the formula, throw in a

  165. different day just to shock the body or shock the mind and have it train and adapt. That's how you

  166. exercise creativity. So, yeah, although I haven't been running in quite a bit since I lost the

  167. weight, you know, I lost the weight so I could run again and then I just didn't get back into it as

  168. much. But it's coming. I've been seeing some of my friends on there running. Shout out to Sean

  169. Straub. He finished the was it the Broad Street race 10 miles. I was looking at his splits on

  170. there and I'm like, oh man, he wouldn't have been able to do that a year ago. So I'm going to see

  171. if I can get him on the podcast. Shout out to Sean. I know you're listening. If not, when it

  172. drops at some point, you're going to catch up. So you inspire me, man. I'm going to get out there

  173. and run. We should definitely catch up soon. I saw a couple other people who recently ran 5Ks

  174. or who were getting back into it. Shout out to my running buddy, V Alvarado. She's out in Texas,

  175. But maybe I'll get into a group and do some sort of virtual running where through Strava or some sort of app we can track each other's progress because it's definitely lonely to just run alone.

  176. But, yeah, let's see what else we got here.

  177. I'm going to stop being so hard on myself.

  178. You know, I'm OK with the fact that I'm not running two to three miles a day anymore.

  179. I'm OK with the fact when I was running, I would not be OK with missing a day.

  180. And this isn't to go and say, just be lackadaisical in your goals.

  181. But just myself personally, I am way too hard on myself for little letdowns or little mistakes

  182. that are guaranteed to happen along the way.

  183. So I'm grateful when I do hit the goal, but I'm also satisfied when I don't.

  184. So, you know, as long as I know that I gave my best or push myself to an ability, I have

  185. to realize that my mediocre is still harder than somebody soft anyway.

  186. And at the same time, my greatness and my achievements are absolutely mediocre to somebody

  187. else's.

  188. But other shout out, we have a going to have phase one on the podcast either next week

  189. or the week after kicking off season three, that's going to be dope.

  190. We had a long conversation.

  191. I got to find some way to chop that one down because we talked till the cameras died and

  192. until we just had to go in and be adults.

  193. So I wanted to take a little break, drop a short episode in between guest episodes.

  194. You know, this is self-produced.

  195. We do, um, I do put everything together and chop it up on top of what I do professionally.

  196. So, um, would have loved to get it out this week, but technical difficulties didn't allow

  197. it for it to be up to the standards that I want to put it out.

  198. So we're going to do that.

  199. Um, I want to share one more story before we get out of here.

  200. Where are we at?

  201. We're at about 20 minutes.

  202. Yeah, I'll be quick.

  203. so i want to encourage you to be naive in whatever you're doing when i got into podcasting i had an

  204. idea of how much work it was but even now i see how much more work i could be putting into it and

  205. it's like wow i was a bit naive in getting into it i'll admit but i love the naivety um i was

  206. reading on pcgamer.com about a game called undisputed so it reads a boxing fan with no

  207. game dev experience quit his job to make a technical boxing skit sim now the world's best

  208. pros want to be in it um a developer named ash habib out of sheffield english was a lifelong

  209. boxing film fan and he was disappointed nobody was making pro boxing video games like ea's fight

  210. night anymore so he decided to make his own and the first step was to learn how to make a video

  211. game. So this guy had no programming or game developing experience. He had worked for an IT

  212. company, started watching some YouTube videos on the Unity engine, and said, well, this is kind of

  213. easy. Instead of making a 2D game, why don't I just do it in 3D if it's this easy? And I'll quote

  214. here, it says, Habib laughs at his naivety and hindsight, but without his foolhardiness, he might

  215. never have designed the game that he did undisputed an aggressively complex boxing sim that released

  216. on steam in early access in january it already features over 50 licensed boxers including

  217. historical greats such as muhammad ali and as well as many of today's top pros uh they got canelo

  218. terence crawford katie taylor tyson fury um and pros are lining up to get into the game so

  219. So I'm excited. I'm probably going to check this out just as a gamer and as a boxing fan. But the article caught my interest. I thought it was worth sharing because if you are too if you if you're not naive, you try to set everything up to be perfect. You're just going to run into analysis paralysis. You're not going to stop and you're going to watch people that are doing it and you're going to critique them and you're going to remind yourself.

  220. I mean, it's easy to be in the bleachers and watching somebody perform and saying,

  221. man, I could be performing.

  222. It's like, yeah, but that person, it's their time right now.

  223. They did it.

  224. You're not.

  225. So be naive.

  226. Bite off more than you can chew.

  227. I'll end with the quote from Never Finish.

  228. That is what belief does for you.

  229. It takes failure out of the question completely because you go in knowing the process will

  230. be long and arduous.

  231. The only way to get there is to continually seek greatness and always be willing to try

  232. one more time.

  233. That was I Will Not Lose podcast, where we set out to prove that everything is learned

  234. from failure and we must persevere and recognize it as one step closer to success.

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