Jonathan Rotger - Revolutionizing Foundations: From Genome Sequencing to Concrete Durability - #0042

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[00:00:53.880] And we have today, Mr. Jonathan Rocker joining us, the Rocker Research Foundation.
[00:00:59.980] What's up, man? How are you doing?
[00:01:01.260] What's going on?
[00:01:01.900] Pull into the mic.
[00:01:02.940] oh yeah i'm getting closer you can pull the mic to you right here is that good yeah perfect all
[00:01:09.080] right so what's up man it's been uh a while i guess time flies i know when was the last time
[00:01:15.520] i was here it was like what like a month ago it was a little longer than a month it's gonna be
[00:01:19.980] two months ago then could be could be that long did not realize that it seemed not so long ago
[00:01:28.020] though i don't know i'd say as soon as i come down the stairs i was like i felt like i was
[00:01:33.500] here like last week or something like i said time flies when you're busy yeah it does the days seem
[00:01:39.820] to go by long when you're not when you don't have much to do you know like i can't remember the last
[00:01:45.080] day i had to just play a video game and see how long that took but i wish i could play video games
[00:01:50.700] i just don't have like the the time or the capacity to basically focus on playing a video
[00:01:58.230] game yeah i mean i i kind of admire some people some of the people that play video games and
[00:02:04.010] they're so like really they're really good at it like i like watching other people play video
[00:02:08.850] games i'm like wow that's like that's crazy i i tried to play video games one time uh it just
[00:02:14.510] like what was the last time i played i think i played halo and i was always getting murdered
[00:02:19.990] i was like i was like i'm done i'm not playing this game anymore because i would i would go out
[00:02:24.890] and then i would get shot or stabbed like i keep getting killed yeah it's not for everyone yeah so
[00:02:30.850] i was like oh man so besides that what are you working on yeah so the projects uh well first
[00:02:37.950] of all the rocker research foundation come into the mic you can straighten it out and pull it to
[00:02:43.370] you that's more comfortable is that good right there yeah you want to be right up on it oh right
[00:02:47.950] here right here mike check perfect uh yeah so we're basically the rocket research foundation
[00:02:55.380] is basically working on uh sustainability innovation and research and then we're doing
[00:03:01.900] research in various things um we're doing like crisper technology we're doing drug discovery
[00:03:07.960] and we're doing preventative health care and we're trying to make it new we're trying to make
[00:03:12.800] something new, especially with, with healthcare. So the thing that I developed, the one project
[00:03:18.960] is AI preventative healthcare. It's basically a program that I've developed. It's an AI
[00:03:25.380] that you feed all this information, you feed it whole genome sequences, or basically sequences
[00:03:31.220] of diseases. And what that does is that it'll hold all of those mutation diseases in my program.
[00:03:42.140] and then what we'll do is we'll take a customer or whatever a member and we'll swab them for a
[00:03:49.020] whole genome sequence and we have special technology for that that makes it we can do it
[00:03:53.660] in about two hours two or three hours get a whole genome sequence of someone's entire composition
[00:03:59.780] and then we'll take that whole genome sequence put it in my program that i've developed and then
[00:04:07.100] it'll just scan you know it'll just scan and basically look for these patterns these mutations
[00:04:15.320] and every time it finds these mutations it sets it aside okay yeah and then we can tell the the
[00:04:23.580] customer and like you have these you have you know these forms of cancers these diseases you
[00:04:30.800] could be susceptible to certain things you should you know change your diet here there's a lot of
[00:04:36.720] different biomarkers that we can pinpoint so it's preventative it's very preventative and if you
[00:04:42.440] don't like if you do have something and it hasn't been discovered yet you know you can take that
[00:04:48.940] information go to the doctors and get you know medication that directly um inhibits you know
[00:04:55.680] whatever you do have instead of them uh doctors you know like they it's trial and error you know
[00:05:02.460] the whole thing for this is so there's no misdiagnosis right instead of them doing and
[00:05:09.050] running so many different tests and a lot of the tests are not paid by insurance so this will just
[00:05:15.130] get right to the point are they still going to want to run tests to verify like but they know
[00:05:19.990] which specific tests to run well yeah so when you say that you have this form of cancer then
[00:05:25.890] they'll be like okay then we'll do retest just to you know find out to be specific now we know
[00:05:30.350] we're looking for right when they don't know what they're looking for they're just it's an array of
[00:05:34.730] different things right so but that's fair if we pinpoint what it is and be like okay look for this
[00:05:40.430] specifically run your own tests and then you know narrow it down to that were we right yes we were
[00:05:46.610] right because the whole genome sequence is not going to lie yeah it's interesting stuff man yeah
[00:05:52.880] and then that's going to be for you know trying to do something for the community and try to do
[00:05:57.380] something new in in health care and so this is almost like um we want to do like a wellness
[00:06:05.180] new preventative like spot that we can like do here in the in the valley or i'm looking at
[00:06:13.480] different spots i'm like looking at pottsville i'm looking at like the northeast like a lot of
[00:06:18.020] different places where we can possibly set up um because it is going to be essentially almost like
[00:06:22.840] wellness center aside from my research as well. So we want to add other things. We want to add
[00:06:30.560] nutritionists. We want to have nutritionists come by. I mean, I have doctors on my board
[00:06:34.500] and, you know, I'll have them look at information, you know, so we're, we're, we're, we know exactly
[00:06:42.440] what information to feed to other, you know, physicians and whatnot. So I'm trying to team
[00:06:48.350] up with i've run out of a pretty good team but as it goes on we're going to develop a bigger team
[00:06:54.090] yeah that's awesome so we know exactly what we're like exactly how we should handle things
[00:07:00.030] we're going to team up with universities um we're already in talks so that's just one project
[00:07:07.340] uh and that's that's a project that i i really like because i'm into the whole preventative
[00:07:15.840] health care like i've always always i was always trying to find ways different ways not the
[00:07:22.220] traditional way to find variations and like new ways to find diseases because there's a whole
[00:07:30.690] bunch of different ways that you can do that not that the traditional route is you know you go to
[00:07:34.910] the doctor they go all right we're going to do a lab test but those specific lab tests you know
[00:07:42.430] they're paid by an insurance company and you you don't get the you get like a you get a normal
[00:07:49.420] round it's like everyone does it this way right everyone is different their biochemistry is
[00:07:54.580] completely different so a lot of times you can't find anything and a lot of times people don't
[00:07:59.160] even realize uh like to give an example of just uh cell inflammation like people are having a lot
[00:08:07.810] of thyroid issues right now and that can be attributed to so many different things but
[00:08:12.250] when you do a blood test and it comes back it's normal right they're not looking for that they're
[00:08:18.090] not looking specifically at the cell and the cell has little receptors and the cell inflammation
[00:08:25.490] what that happens is those receptors don't really work anymore so all of the all the things that are
[00:08:31.330] trying to communicate with your cell it's being blocked but a blood test is not going to know that
[00:08:36.010] you have to really hyper focus and like if they told you oh you have cellular
[00:08:40.730] cellular inflammation then they'll do other specific tests to really focus on looking at that
[00:08:47.270] and that's the biggest that's a big cause for a lot of diseases and a lot of things
[00:08:52.610] the communication is not there so nothing's working where your cell receptors there's a lot
[00:08:57.870] of things that block that and you know we if we would just fix that you would actually feel a lot
[00:09:04.490] better. But I'm trying to develop new technologies and innovate old technologies to basically help
[00:09:12.940] people focus on how to find new diseases and current diseases and whatnot. So that's just
[00:09:20.710] one part of Rocker Research Foundation. The second part of it is the, what we're doing is
[00:09:27.510] the graphene and the waste of energy. So the waste of energy is my other big project that
[00:09:34.510] is going to be bringing a lot of work business uh like so the way that this development yeah
[00:09:43.180] develop i mean we right now i'm in the works i have a partner a business partner that is helping
[00:09:48.600] me buy land and you know talk to the city council and and this is like in different spots in
[00:09:56.660] pennsylvania right so what we want to do is a lot of people we're trying to get rid of landfills
[00:10:02.220] right that's a really big part of what we're trying to do and um and they're keeping you
[00:10:08.280] the environment safe but also generating electricity from it as well so we've developed a
[00:10:14.620] way where it's called plasma gasification but the way that we develop it is like there's no co2
[00:10:21.260] emission well hardly any co2 emission uh it's almost like an incinerator but what we've developed
[00:10:27.100] is something that contains that so you would burn you would take all this garbage right you would
[00:10:33.180] take all this garbage put it into a reactor and burn it right just hardcore pressure burn it and
[00:10:40.900] then what happens is a slag builds up uh it's like a carbon base like it's called slag okay that slag
[00:10:49.900] is actually a good byproduct that actually you can put back into um the infrastructure like
[00:10:56.300] construction like cement and roads and stuff like that so that byproduct is actually useful you can
[00:11:03.580] take that and sell that back for you know construction materials and then also metal
[00:11:09.740] it's called ingot metal and so that metal you know you can sell that off too and then but the
[00:11:17.700] prize of this is from burning this you are actually it goes through the system the system
[00:11:25.690] that we built to basically eradicate all of the poisonous and corrosive gases that will be
[00:11:31.690] developed when you burn yeah um the garbage so what we're doing is we're converting that
[00:11:39.230] into to power a generator that power that you know generates electricity so we're all trying
[00:11:45.770] to figure out you know our way to go away from you know these i'm going to call them monopolies
[00:11:53.600] these electrical companies that you know obviously control more of you know all of our electricity
[00:12:01.300] this will at least benefit the communities uh and the public by providing electricity
[00:12:08.410] from garbage that's crazy yeah and then the technology is there you know i mean i looked
[00:12:15.730] at old technology uh with uh some of my engineering buddies and it's right there
[00:12:22.590] other countries do this we're the only ones that don't do this we have like 70 i was gonna say our
[00:12:27.050] waste system is a lot different than other countries like they make a lot of money off
[00:12:31.210] just the garbage like uh it's like there's a lot of money in garbage there's so much money in
[00:12:37.470] garbage but and now that these like like amazon and um i would say like car manufacturers they're
[00:12:44.290] trying to get rid of their garbage sustainably uh so this is waste energy is the best way to do this
[00:12:53.650] but the ways that you know some people talk bad about it they'll say oh well you're going to
[00:12:59.280] create um you know carbon emissions we found out a way to reduce that but still would you rather
[00:13:08.170] have landfills of just like it and it leeching out poisons into like the the environment or
[00:13:16.450] convert that and if you get some co2 it's going to be minimal it's people still driving around
[00:13:22.470] cars this will at least reduce landfills create more land allow for more land and then generate
[00:13:31.070] electricity hopefully you can either resell that to the system or you can create some sort of
[00:13:38.570] program where it kind of reduces your electricity your electricity cost does that take money away
[00:13:44.510] from like an existing industry is that why there's pushback against of course there's always i mean
[00:13:49.250] they're have they want a strong hold right they want a strong hold on certain industries um i
[00:13:56.090] don't think i'm going to get big enough where where i'm going to be stepping on significant toes
[00:14:03.770] but the idea of it is the problem so the idea is actually bigger than even starting it's it's
[00:14:11.150] they're going to look at it and go we need to stop that but if you find cities and towns that
[00:14:18.050] need it because they can't get rid of their garbage and this is an opportunity for you know
[00:14:24.060] a sustainable you know renewable energy type thing uh they're gonna go for it if you can reduce
[00:14:32.160] someone's electricity cost and get rid of their garbage come on yeah they're gonna go for that
[00:14:37.920] they're not gonna care that these big powerhouse industries are gonna come in and go oh well it's
[00:14:44.300] not gonna matter to them because they're already making money right they already have they're
[00:14:47.280] already plugged in everywhere at least what you can do is develop little systems to help communities
[00:14:53.720] right i don't care about starting small starting small will be fine i could do that uh and then i
[00:15:00.640] know at some point they're gonna gonna try to buy us out i already know that they're gonna try to
[00:15:04.120] buy us out but that's money i mean that's business uh i just want to be the ones bringing i want to
[00:15:10.340] be bringing out these technologies so people know hey there are other ways we can do this why don't
[00:15:15.740] We spent some of our tax dollars, you know, on innovation, on doing new things, trying to actually, they say to let's, let's, let's improve the environment.
[00:15:28.410] Let's do new things to improve the climate.
[00:15:30.770] You know, let's, let's create change.
[00:15:34.250] Come on.
[00:15:35.110] I mean, they say it and they talk about it, but they don't actually do it.
[00:15:38.190] We have like 70 waste of energy plants in the United States.
[00:15:43.270] not it should be a lot more but the reason why some of them go oh we don't want them because
[00:15:51.480] of you know because of you know the way that they have their waste energy plans it could be a little
[00:15:57.860] bit uh poisonous uh in the on the environment because they don't have systems they don't have
[00:16:03.780] all the systems in place to get rid of it yeah yeah to but we've developed at and i thought it
[00:16:09.640] was like the simplest thing ever i was like oh why don't we just put this here that stops that
[00:16:14.280] from happening and we can move forward scaling it to what they're at the other industries the other
[00:16:23.070] waste energy plants um is going to be a little bit difficult we can create something we can get
[00:16:30.020] rid of tons we can produce maybe one gigawatt which is still really good which is still really
[00:16:38.290] good or yeah gigawatt megawatt no gigawatt and it's still really good that's producing enough
[00:16:45.510] electricity the way that we're going to do it that's awesome and then it gives the research
[00:16:51.580] foundation some ways to monetize to be able to help with the other research endeavors oh yeah
[00:16:58.260] so like i was just talking about the byproduct the the slag that comes off of it so i was just i was
[00:17:04.500] just sitting down the other day right and i was like oh man uh how can i utilize this it's like
[00:17:10.260] yeah because you have to find a buyer for it right so it's like all right obviously you could sell it
[00:17:14.520] back but are they going to want to buy it so how about we just re-innovate i'm already doing the
[00:17:19.520] graphene thing so i was like how does how how does my graphene project work with this slag
[00:17:25.320] oh i forgot i'm doing something in concrete graphene already enhances concrete by 35 percent
[00:17:33.300] I said, and then I was like doing some research and was like, does slag get put back into concrete?
[00:17:39.880] Yeah. How much does it improve it? It's like, Oh, there's a, was it 15, 20%. I don't think
[00:17:46.730] anyone's thought of this. So I am developing a new product for housing cement houses using the slag
[00:17:55.010] concrete and graphene. I know I'm saying this out loud and people are going to be, Oh, I'm going to
[00:18:00.370] do that too i don't care i said it i'm saying it now i'm going to do it anyways i already have
[00:18:04.670] provisional patents on it anyways it i thought i was like wow this is this is awesome we're
[00:18:12.590] going to be recycling all these things so i'm going to be creating electricity and then we're
[00:18:18.380] going to be creating houses with this with the byproduct and new tech like new nanotechnology
[00:18:23.660] which is graphing um and when i met my other business partner he's like a young guy he
[00:18:31.080] was telling me about he wanted to do the three 3d printed houses right okay so i was like oh
[00:18:37.680] yeah i saw i was looking into that too but i i didn't look that much into it but we sat down
[00:18:43.400] and we went over the details and i said you know what that would help that would help us come out
[00:18:49.570] with a huge bang like because no one is doing that so imagine if we because we're we're in the
[00:18:55.410] mix right now we're we're we are in the talks of buying the machine and then imagine that bringing
[00:19:03.050] that here to pennsylvania right and then creating how 3d printing houses with this new cement
[00:19:10.090] that is pretty much unstoppable sustainable very very strong uh it's going to change the game
[00:19:20.470] we're going to change the game in that so when he put me on to see that in action yeah so this is
[00:19:25.760] all this is all happening this is like we have to we have to fly to utah to talk to the people
[00:19:31.240] that have the machine um so i'm running around doing so many different things right so it's like
[00:19:37.930] all right but i'm not doing all of it i'm putting everything into position where then i can hire
[00:19:42.090] people to then help me focus on all the projects i have enough brain capacity to basically put all
[00:19:50.380] of this into play i've developed the ai i thought of the ideas i'm putting this all together i can't
[00:19:56.700] do it all by myself obviously i have to reach out i have to create teams and that's what i'm doing
[00:20:02.540] now and that's why running around i'm it's like all right i created this with the ai help the
[00:20:07.340] preventative health care i was like okay that's basically done essentially i just need to hire
[00:20:12.780] lab techs and that's it for that uh because it's just gonna be plug and play it's gonna be
[00:20:17.660] it's it's you just put it into the program essentially after you get the whole genome
[00:20:21.880] sequence uh but the waste of energy thing that's gonna take up some time because that is
[00:20:27.240] you know i have to get engineers yeah i have to get engineers to help me build it because we're
[00:20:33.180] gonna be we're gonna build like a smaller because we have a small model now to test that it it's
[00:20:38.240] proven right and it is i just want to build a prototype yeah so we have a prototype we want to
[00:20:43.420] make a just a bigger one you know for a little bit of a little bit of show um so we can get more
[00:20:50.020] investors on board uh and then when they see that they're gonna go wow okay and then i feel like
[00:20:57.960] we're gonna get subsidies because that whole infrastructure bill it's specifically for
[00:21:03.530] something like this so if they want us to create new things to reduce co2 emissions and then get
[00:21:11.870] rid of garbage and save the environment we're doing exactly that those funds should just come
[00:21:17.130] right to us if we're providing electricity getting rid of landfills we're making a healthier economy
[00:21:24.840] and then we're going to be creating jobs right so it's but then we're doing a lot of we're doing a
[00:21:31.400] of great things and we are it's just such a headache because it's right now it's uh that
[00:21:38.550] time where you're putting it all together before you come out to the public right so
[00:21:45.670] right now i'm doing this with you just uh it's almost like a pre rollout yeah it's like it's
[00:21:51.750] this is this is happening at the moment uh and then when we get everything in order i need
[00:21:57.270] everything in order i have to do everything i have to play everything smart uh then we're
[00:22:03.590] gonna come out and then you know show everyone what we have but i wanna buy everything first
[00:22:08.790] i wanna have the machines here um i wanna bought the land i want to if once all that happens is
[00:22:16.790] when i'm actually gonna you know go to the newspaper and go to the magazines and all that
[00:22:21.270] stuff and go it's here you know we're developing it and then we want to see if the people actually
[00:22:28.910] want this right and i feel like they do i feel like it's something to see it's like they think
[00:22:36.100] of like where you get your electricity from and then people always talk about you know uh how
[00:22:40.720] we're going to get rid of garbage and then we know that even the recycling doesn't work it's it's
[00:22:45.420] almost it's so funny it's like we we still recycle and we know where that goes it still goes in the
[00:22:51.760] trash we can't sell it to china so who's buying it no one's buying it so what happens to it
[00:22:57.960] some of it some of it gets recycled and turned back into like plastic pellets most of it come
[00:23:05.990] on because you you could also do something with plastics where you can turn it into gasoline or
[00:23:11.290] different you know um yeah like gasolines and whatnot but we don't do enough of that
[00:23:18.460] we just garbage it so that's i feel like that's horrible we should at least try every possible way
[00:23:27.040] to get rid of garbage i mean norway does it they have they're so efficient
[00:23:31.340] that they have zero garbage they have to import garbage
[00:23:35.560] they have to import garbage because of this and then who else uh and i feel sorry for like india
[00:23:43.880] india imports garbage you know because they go through it but they're they can't recycle a lot
[00:23:49.700] of those things and it just seeps into their their soil and their water and then we the united states
[00:23:57.460] and all the bunch of other countries just dump it on india just dump it because we don't know
[00:24:02.660] where to get rid of it they you know they're they're like they're taking it in because
[00:24:07.460] they make some money off of it but they're also hurting their environment their environment
[00:24:10.980] completely and it's sad it's a shame it's it's sad oh yeah yeah yeah and then i wasn't aware of
[00:24:16.860] that yeah and i don't understand we know that this waste of energy thing works singapore does it they
[00:24:22.660] get rid of all they had such a big garbage issue like huge garbage issue where they started they
[00:24:29.350] developed this waste of energy plant it's not as efficient as ours is going to be but they developed
[00:24:34.850] one to get rid of their garbage got rid of the garbage and now they're producing their own
[00:24:40.800] electricity so imagine you get enough funding to build like a huge plant somewhere where you're
[00:24:47.920] now you are a competitor to the electric like the you know the like the electricity companies
[00:24:53.740] that's that's a powerhouse like the government itself isn't it isn't that still regulated
[00:24:59.650] electricity i mean you could you can be a private company and do it yourself you just have to have
[00:25:04.390] your own contracts so you would have to build the infrastructure for it so obviously you're
[00:25:09.620] going to have to have some sort of negotiations to because usually what you do is even other
[00:25:15.800] companies that develop their own electricity they just sell it back into the grid yeah that's what
[00:25:21.060] i that's what i've yeah but then you sell it back into the grid yeah you're making money off of it
[00:25:25.080] but does if you're producing all this electricity right shouldn't the price of electricity go down
[00:25:30.680] it should go down right it should go down well you gotta store it somewhere well that's that's
[00:25:37.800] them and yes like the cost like electricity being stored costs more than electricity being used you
[00:25:43.980] know i guess i don't know i mean they have ways of storing it i mean we're again we're innovating
[00:25:51.530] new technologies and he's using graphene uh to develop like new batteries as well that could
[00:25:57.270] hold this charge and like solar batteries you know those the solar batteries they they still
[00:26:03.610] leach out energy so even if you store it you can't leave it there for that long because at some point
[00:26:10.030] it's going to leach out the energy so we're trying to develop new batteries to basically
[00:26:16.320] help hold that so imagine if if you had like say if you have like a like a solar system us like a
[00:26:25.660] solar system in your house where like a solar power system in your house and those batteries
[00:26:31.240] so what you do is if you already have that system set up imagine us like just charging all of these
[00:26:38.270] batteries and just like giving it to the people and then allowing them to run their house off of
[00:26:43.170] that and if they need more electricity they come back charge it come and then it's almost like a
[00:26:47.830] car battery or whatever but this new battery will actually hold the charge and not leach out the
[00:26:53.490] electricity won't leach out so these are imagine me sitting here thinking of all these things and
[00:27:00.530] like writing it down it's like all right let's focus on this all right all right let's focus on
[00:27:05.410] this all right now how are we gonna do this now neil i need a team for this now since i since i
[00:27:10.890] need a team for this i have to write out the process yeah yeah so that's what i that's what
[00:27:16.110] i do i write out like how you fill out uh like when you're filling out patents or whatever like
[00:27:21.710] the detailed description of every part of it that's what i do with all of these plans right
[00:27:26.850] And then I get a team. I'll ask someone else in my field and say, hey, I'm going to need help with this. How could you help me and assist me with this? And then I'll let them read it after they sign the NDA. And then we can get to work. And that's how it's going to be.
[00:27:46.890] And then that's how I'm going to be building these industries out is you develop it first, you get funding, and then the development starts.
[00:27:58.110] You just start, you know, kind of building around almost like what Elon's doing a little bit, but smaller.
[00:28:06.880] So what, it's not all been like flowers and roses the whole way.
[00:28:13.720] like i'm sure not every project that you write down and say okay this is what we need to do
[00:28:18.980] gets done or maybe it's shelved indefinitely no no yeah so i things get shelved but then they
[00:28:24.400] get put back into action but that still needs to have all the information laid out so when i
[00:28:30.360] figured out that slag and the graphing thing could work together i said oh okay so instead of what we
[00:28:36.520] were going to do is sell a lot of the graphing to a concrete company what we decided to do is like
[00:28:44.440] all right well we can make it for ourselves and then add it to this if we're going to be building
[00:28:50.240] out these houses why i don't want to sell it you know we can sell it later but for right now let's
[00:28:57.060] develop these houses and if we create too much graphing then we'll sell it we'll partner up with
[00:29:03.650] someone that needs it or wants it to do their own thing okay so we'll do that yeah because we're not
[00:29:10.410] going to be producing that much graphene we're probably going to be producing maybe like a ton
[00:29:13.790] a week which is significant but not significant enough for like a huge concrete industry that
[00:29:24.260] needs you know hundreds of tons of it to mix with theirs to make the product much stronger
[00:29:31.780] so we're essentially basically going to be creating the graphene for our own use yeah
[00:29:39.020] you're not making the supply with the demand in mind you're not manufacturing graphene that's
[00:29:44.000] just a part yeah because i wanted that's the whole business was to basically manufacture it
[00:29:48.980] at the at the high scale like we were going to scale up and only produce graphene so i was like
[00:29:54.120] all right so we're focusing on that and i was like i don't want to do that i feel like there's
[00:29:58.180] other we can be doing other things right so let's go small scale and then utilize that new
[00:30:06.350] technology because no one is going to have what we have no one i don't care what there are like in
[00:30:13.520] the uk there are companies that have they're starting to put graphene into cement uh and i
[00:30:19.580] already knew about that so we were going to do that here developing our own graphene for cement
[00:30:24.440] and um i would say tar like like the roads and whatnot so i said let's let's just do it ourselves
[00:30:34.410] let's do a small scale and let's let's find a way somewhere to put it and then i found it i found
[00:30:40.670] where to put it i found to put it in the slag and then i have to formulate it so it works perfectly
[00:30:46.910] so we have a really good bond like our concrete is going to have like such a strong bond it's
[00:30:52.810] gonna be ridiculous so we we would actually use less cement in ours because it's going to be so
[00:30:59.910] much stronger yeah it has that byproduct in it yeah and i'm curious what color is this slag
[00:31:07.890] keep saying it okay that would make sense if it was any other color i'm thinking maybe it's clear
[00:31:13.030] or something oh no no no no imagine like slags when uh you burn something it turns black right
[00:31:18.890] so this is going to be everything that's burned uh like all that garbage that's burned turns into
[00:31:25.450] a slag material so it's just like this black sludge uh but it's a it's it's still good because
[00:31:31.990] it's like a carbon-based structure that you can still utilize uh so and then and yeah and then
[00:31:40.640] it's when i look at projects i go i go okay where can that so we're late we're doing like a circular
[00:31:47.120] um like economy where we're utilizing everything that we're doing in our other companies yeah so
[00:31:53.800] everything connects back to something yeah yeah do you um do you ever consider so all time put
[00:32:02.470] into something is time worth i don't want to say researching but like you're not wasting any time
[00:32:09.860] going at any of these rabbit holes no no because then one helps with the other exactly so it's
[00:32:14.920] kind of they all work with each other yeah yeah so i'll go down those rabbit holes right and then
[00:32:20.500] and then it'll just connect it'll just work luckily it'll just work with everything else
[00:32:28.500] that i'm doing and like i hope that this is worth it right i go down this rabbit hole and i'm doing
[00:32:33.140] all this research and it's like i hope i'm not wasting my time on this and then you get a eureka
[00:32:39.460] moment and you're like oh wait a minute this connects to this oh perfect makes sense yeah so
[00:32:47.360] that's what that's basically what uh i'm doing and then buying up a bunch of lands
[00:32:54.030] that's like a interesting way to look at success or failure like if you're not wasting any time
[00:33:01.350] a lot of people chalk up failures they try to say oh i wasted my time doing that i don't think it's
[00:33:07.330] waste you know um people shouldn't think them doing like spending time on something and and
[00:33:13.950] then later you know because it didn't result in whatever they wanted to and then give up i feel
[00:33:19.430] like you learn something still i mean you still spent time researching something so you know part
[00:33:23.870] of something at least i don't think it's ever really a waste of time i feel like things if you
[00:33:29.170] dig deep enough will work out i think you get skills i mean even doing the podcast you add on
[00:33:38.410] something that can be applied to something else somewhere else but i think that's a great way to
[00:33:44.250] to look at it you really can't fail if you're not living with any sort of regrets and how you're
[00:33:51.950] spending your time and what you're doing so what about um i read about steam you're teaching
[00:33:57.990] oh no yeah well the stream stream i'm i always miss the ladder yeah because everyone has the
[00:34:04.170] stem programs and then the steam programs came out so mine is uh it's the science technology
[00:34:10.830] reasoning engineering art math and music the reasoning part is the comprehension it's how
[00:34:19.450] people and kids understand things that is the most that's the fundamental part of you teaching any
[00:34:24.370] student anything is reasoning is understanding and comprehending the subject matter so we
[00:34:32.930] developed stream since i have a foundation we you know these are different components that we
[00:34:37.990] you know we wanted to add so as we're working on these you know science research and developing
[00:34:44.610] and innovating and doing all these things we want to we want to give back and then have develop a
[00:34:50.710] program for kids to understand how to innovate and think outside the box and use these new
[00:34:59.730] technologies because they're not going to get that in school. They're not even going to come
[00:35:03.030] close to it unless they're going to an extreme elite private school. And I don't see a lot of
[00:35:09.920] those here. So we want to develop something that's going to be pretty much high end in the sense of
[00:35:19.940] the education that they're getting. And I really, I'm looking for teachers and that want to be a
[00:35:27.580] part of that, or even like new teachers coming out of school that would want to be a part of that.
[00:35:32.320] I mean, cause I, my foundation is a nonprofit, so we do, we can raise money, we can get grants
[00:35:37.420] and whatnot specifically for these programs. Um, I was going to do what I was going to do is buy
[00:35:43.720] a building and then kind of fit it out and then raise money. And then you'd do fundraisers and
[00:35:49.560] stuff like that to tell the public that we should have these programs and right now i don't know
[00:35:55.440] where to really put them um i was thinking uptown i was thinking ethelham i don't know where to put
[00:36:02.560] it exactly but again these are programs that we're focusing on as well as well as uh like sports
[00:36:11.820] programs um that we want to also do because it correlates still with the preventative health
[00:36:17.740] and health and education we want to develop sports that we don't really have i would say
[00:36:25.290] like people that grew up the way that we did they don't really have access to like fencing
[00:36:30.000] fencing no one has fenced i can't even ask yeah i can't i can't even ask if you ask someone have
[00:36:37.620] you ever fenced before and they're like no what is what is that it's like it's like sword fighting
[00:36:42.940] it's like why would i do it's you know a lot of people can get scholarships for that right so
[00:36:47.660] imagine if you were that good and you had some significant training in that you know you would
[00:36:54.360] better luck out in getting some sort of you know scholarship uh so we wanted we wanted to do
[00:37:00.370] fencing uh we wanted to do like tennis swimming rugby um and we were almost and i think i'm going
[00:37:08.950] to get people on board with this too is uh well not jiu-jitsu specifically i like grappling so
[00:37:15.050] grappling so and then grappling as well so if we we say we're going to focus on these sports and we
[00:37:22.050] can get teams from middle school high school and adults right and just develop these teams
[00:37:28.890] and i think we could do it we can 100 do it and then it correlates what we're fundamentally doing
[00:37:34.600] is you know basically that's the health that's the health part the foundation has a lot of different
[00:37:43.080] arms uh and then there's a that's why i'm putting on i'm getting my board of directors and then
[00:37:49.400] my committees that we have to put underneath the board of directors it's going to be a significant
[00:37:55.000] amount of people to basically run this whole thing but for right now uh i mean even before
[00:38:02.840] even when i started it right in the beginning i was doing it all by myself and now like slowly
[00:38:09.320] you know i met people ran into people in different fields i was like i feel like you should be on my
[00:38:13.720] board and they go yeah i feel like you should be on my board or you should be on my committee
[00:38:18.200] or you should do this or you should do that and they're all like dude you're doing something
[00:38:22.040] pretty amazing i was like yeah but i need people to do this too so that's you know in the next
[00:38:28.440] couple of months that's what i'm doing too is like um making my team bigger and then at some point
[00:38:34.680] uh there's going to be some like i'm trying to put together after the fact uh this like gala
[00:38:41.880] this like an actual fundraising gala where people come out but i need to have things
[00:38:47.160] in order before i even do that like i need to have so many things i need to have all the some
[00:38:54.300] of these contracts signed i have to buy a whole bunch of things uh once those things are like on
[00:38:59.960] paper and because i would say like 75 of it is but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna green light this
[00:39:08.080] entire thing like come out public public until i have at least 95 that's fair enough yeah that
[00:39:15.780] makes sense so i know that we're ready i want to have i know i want to have enough money so i can
[00:39:20.780] pay everybody i want to have enough money for all the projects um i and i'm just doing it correctly
[00:39:28.510] i'm doing it smart i'm working you know at my pace and uh it takes time obviously it takes time
[00:39:36.510] but once it happens you're gonna hear about it a lot so we have dedicated and we're trying to
[00:39:44.090] build out something that's pretty significant in the education in science and innovation and
[00:39:49.790] you know because i have a foundation it's a non-profit that's what we're going to be doing
[00:39:54.330] so we want to i'm trying to find a building to basically buy and then basically fit it out and
[00:40:02.770] then have this education center um and then make it like what i'm trying to do with that is you
[00:40:09.860] can have a private school and then you can have a home school the home school laws are better so if
[00:40:16.540] you don't want your kids in regular school you can just homeschool them right but then you can
[00:40:21.300] also do like a community homeschool so i was thinking about something like that yeah the
[00:40:26.250] parents are gonna have to pay out of pocket um but if we get funding enough funding you know
[00:40:31.030] we try to offset costs for them but their kids will get a really really uh significant education
[00:40:38.980] in sciences um and then also they're gonna be learning different languages too we want to offer
[00:40:44.990] something that's like high end but for the normal public which is people yeah because they don't
[00:40:52.830] have that opportunity and i feel like if you more parents are now they are uh about the education
[00:41:01.580] of their kids before i was like you know i'll send them to public school you know let them
[00:41:05.780] figure it out now i feel like there's a lot of parents that want to do a lot so if i lay out
[00:41:12.200] and design and develop a program like this um we can actually turn out or churn out better
[00:41:19.280] educated kids like even if they just before they even get to college you know some of them are
[00:41:25.820] going to want to go to college some of them are going to have enough skills already if we start
[00:41:29.700] in middle school or we even start in elementary school if you don't have a program from you know
[00:41:34.500] like a k through 8 or k through 12 like whatever program we start those kids when they're done
[00:41:41.460] are going to be so educated in the sciences and the new technologies and have a better comprehension
[00:41:49.320] than than all of the public schools that we know that we went through yeah yeah so i want to i want
[00:41:57.120] to at least offer that i want to do something like that because i mean i have kids i want them
[00:42:02.820] to have the best the best education possible and i'm going to give them the best education possible
[00:42:07.810] and you know it's not you know private school is the way to do that but i think as a community we
[00:42:16.220] can you know if they really want it we can develop something like that you know obviously
[00:42:21.460] everything's money right so yeah obviously i'm putting up money i hopefully i can get some
[00:42:27.600] grants but then the public is also going to have to donate something to make it happen as well
[00:42:33.580] and then we can go from there but yeah that's uh the program we're trying to develop as well
[00:42:41.110] that's interesting man it's like that i like that you give back so you got a little bit making money
[00:42:46.760] to help with the preventative health you've got the stream to help with giving back to the community
[00:42:52.040] and just building out different plans and have boards to run them and one leads to the other
[00:43:00.210] and helps out this piece of the puzzle over here.
[00:43:04.250] So that's pretty awesome, man.
[00:43:06.490] Racket Research Foundation.
[00:43:08.170] Yeah, my whole network is,
[00:43:10.310] it's a circular economy in my whole business structure.
[00:43:15.150] And then what you do is you team up
[00:43:16.870] with other companies that want,
[00:43:18.950] and then when you team up,
[00:43:19.970] you get equity in some of them.
[00:43:21.310] If they really believe in what you're doing,
[00:43:23.010] it's like, all right, it's going to be an exchange.
[00:43:25.010] So if you want to be part of this,
[00:43:28.060] and it's like some of this equity,
[00:43:29.060] just it's going to go into the other companies that i have but it's also going to go into my
[00:43:33.700] foundation right and then when i team up with other companies it's like look the agreement is
[00:43:39.950] yeah the equity of that big portion like if it's a 12 percent or 15 percent that's going to the
[00:43:46.650] foundation it's not going to the it's going to the foundation and you get write-offs right you
[00:43:50.890] get write-offs so it's a win-win yeah yeah so well thought out yeah is there any websites or
[00:44:01.340] social you want to shout out yeah just follow rocker research foundation.org and then on
[00:44:07.300] instagram is rocker research foundation and then on facebook is rocker research foundation and
[00:44:12.080] that's rocker r-o-t-g-e-r i was gonna say research foundation because some people are like oh it's
[00:44:18.340] rocker even middle school and high school they just thought everyone even my friends thought
[00:44:23.900] it was just rocker it's rocker rocker but i was like that's easier rocker it's easier for them
[00:44:29.340] to pronounce it's easier yeah there we go all right rocker research foundation.org thank you
[00:44:36.200] for coming on the show and let's talk more about the projects come back on the show as you expand
[00:44:41.560] out talk about the different stuff because what you got going on super cool yeah i definitely
[00:44:46.720] will as soon as these projects um you know when i have a better green light on them then we can uh
[00:44:54.910] we can talk more uh about them because i'm doing some like like i did that thing i just sent you
[00:45:00.670] with a political thing it's really a committee thing um it's like a that i can come on later
[00:45:07.230] for that but uh it's it's about fathers and child welfare like helping to develop a community
[00:45:15.390] in regards to help them out like a lot of people don't have resources like fathers they're going
[00:45:21.750] through divorce or through several different things to have like no help that's another
[00:45:26.870] thing that i'm doing um that i got appointed to appointed to from my foundation um from this
[00:45:33.410] political group uh advocacy group and i'm going to be in charge of the whole northeast so
[00:45:39.350] yeah when that comes man congratulations so when that comes in uh into play uh because that's all
[00:45:45.610] being developed right now i can come talk specifically about that because that's another
[00:45:49.530] thing of me giving back or my foundation giving back is we're creating an agency to help uh child
[00:45:56.170] welfare but father and like fatherhood by providing specific certain resources and services
[00:46:05.050] So that's something to be, you know, I'm pretty psyched about that too.
[00:46:09.290] Excellent.
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